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Kit asked me to post this on the forum. Here's my problem:

I've always had a problem during a nasal breathing. It's hard for me to breath that way, i'm not getting enough air through my nose, like there's something blocked over there. I can do it of course, but taking the air taking motion is very loud and hard to do. Mouth breathing is more natural for me. My friends also told me that i'm breathing very loudly.

I have Pectus excavatum and i'm thining about Turbinate Reduction.

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Jaroslav,

Without actually consulting with you, it is hard, and foolish, for me to offer more than general advice.

In my past, I boxed for a few years, and this damaged my nose, as you can imagine. When I was introduced to Yoga, one of the techniques I learned had an immediate effect on improving breathing through my nose. This technique is described below, but only you can assess whether this will be suitable for you.

Basically you source some good quality coconut oil and you take a small amount of that (just a teaspoon and put into a small container, big enough that you can insert a finger. You need to just take enough coconut oil that you will need for each day because you don't want to contaminate the coconut oil in the original container by putting your finger back into it.

Start with a little finger. Insert the first joint or two joints into the coconut oil, and then very carefully insert the tip of the little finger into one nostril. In the beginning only the tip of the little finger will go into the nostril but, in time if you're careful about it (and take all the time the body needs) you'll be able to insert the little finger deeply enough into the nostril that the tip of it the touch the turbinate bones in the septa. If the restriction to your breathing is in nostril, as it was in my case, this will improve your breathing overtime immensely. Getting the little finger in this deeply took about three months, and I did it every second day. Don't go too hard too early; the tissues need time to adapt.

And once any restriction has been freed up, then you can start to use the neti pot. I was going to make a video myself, but I found excellent instructions on the net; read here first.

http://yoga108.org/p...a-neti-pot">how

And there's a YT clip too:

But two things to note: use fine salt, and mix the salt into the water properly (she does not); I use a second container for the mixing, and I make about ¾ litre, so I can fill my neti pot twice (one full pot for each nostril). As well, I tilt my head further forwards than she does and I turn it to the side more. Once you get used to the sensations (and assuming your sinuses are clear enough for water to flow through) you will find that adjusting the tilt and the amount of head turn will change where inside the sinuses the water flows.

Finally, I do not recommend blowing your nose right after you use the neti pot. Instead, bend over fully until your head is at about 45° to the floor and turn and tilt your head in each direction in turn and, by blocking one nostril, very gently blow any remaining water out the other nostril. I usually find that I need to make separate blowing actions for each nostril in any one head position and this gets the last of the water out. Once you've done that a couple times then by all means blow your nose as she demonstrates. You do want to get all the salt water out of the sinus cavities if you can.

Please let us know if any of this helps.

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Take your time; there's no hurry.

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I'm pretty sure Steve (Maxwell) demonstrates the coconut nasal thing in Episode 2 of his Maui Fitness Hunter video series (among other interesting things): http://maxwellsc.com/maui-fitness-hunter.cfm

Tom Myer's article collection 'Structural Integration: collected journal articles' has an excellent article entitled 'Some thoughts on intra-nasal work'. Great article collection, too. The Kinesthetic Dystonia series is fantastic!

I also 'Second' Kit's point about not blow your nose post-neti - I learned this the hard way!

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theColin: neti pots are very inexpensive these days, and will supercharge what you describe above—with trying, IMO.

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theColin: neti pots are very inexpensive these days, and will supercharge what you describe above—with trying, IMO.

I'll have to see if I can find one somewhere.

Maybe I can find just the right tea pot that would do in a pinch. :)

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Little Update - it's working!

The progress is slow but breathing Through my right nostril is right now quite possible. There's huge difference between right and left nostril thou. Left side is very small :/ But I'm not giving up! Small steps here! :)

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That's always the best way (and least risky!). Big differences very common, and can contribute to snoring, too.

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Another update over here.

I can comfortably breath through nose during the relaxing sessions with tapes Kit put on this forum. Great feeling, new sensations. I'm very happy about what's happening :)

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DW wrote:

This post has inspired me to crack open the coconut oil and grease up the little finger; again...

That cracked me up, but yes, it works.

​Glad to hear you are getting somewhere to, Jaroslav.

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I did the 'Coconut Sinus Re-modelling' (CSR ;D) yesterday, and still have a decent asymmetry between sides. As K mentioned in another post recently (related to stretching and tension patterns on that occasion) - the pursuit of balance (or moving closer towards balance) often yields interesting benefits.. So looks like I will be doing this more often.

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I remember a year ago seeing my sister neti pot and me thinking "I'll never do that - it can't possibly be good to mess around with your sinuses like that". I decided to try it after learning it was part of Steve Maxwell's daily routine... I've been doing it daily for a couple months and now I can't live without it. Had I seen Kit's excellent advise I would not have had to learn those lessons personally. The only piece of advise I have to offer that hasn't been said, is do yourself a favor and get a quality neti pot. The feel of a smooth ceramic spout is far nicer than the plastic neti pots you will find at drug stores.

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I am currently doing jala neti twice a day & have been exploring sutra neti (with catheter) in the morning. I recommend looking at sutra neti if like me the jala is a little inconsistent or you need more. In terms of awareness and sensation, I have found the gains to be super fast (virtually immediate) and a huge decrease in blockage/mucous. There is an opening up with sutra that I have found to be inconsistent with Jala alone (drawing into mouth) eg inconsistent nice opening into the mouth on one or both sides even after multiple pots. Sutra neti seems to be getting me to the super clear/super open passages very efficiently. Exploring the 'dark passages' also is highly entertaining/educational.

 

Jala gives me much more energy, sutra is a step up again. I wish I had done it sooner (7 years of Jala neti, nasal surgery, lots of suffering under my belt).

 

I second getting a quality pot, I have a nice sized stainless.

 

Mitko, the yoga sites recommend other oils/ghee, have a search.

 

Of course warnings: consult a medical specialist, guru etc.

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Oh this is really interesting.  I've always had trouble breathing through my nose, but not generally - yoga is OK but anything cardio wise I end up breathing in through my mouth.  By sticking my little finger up my nose my left nostril is so much smaller than my right.

 

I think I'll give the jala neti and sutra neti a go.  I can't stand coconut so can't imagine I'd like that up my nose but can give it a go.

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I'm interested in this, but the doctor I saw was pushing for surgery to fix the nasal valve angle. I understand it would be hard to make a call without examination, but what might be a question I could ask at the next appoint to see if this method could be useful?

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